New Club kit 2011-2013

John, sorry forgot to mention, we will be looking at full zip jerseys, good point, thanks.

Any chance we could put in the winter gear order asap so that we have the stuff for the winter - as in the start of November.

Folks - When this topic was started back on the 25th of May we were told that the final design would be put to a vote in August. The end of August is only a couple of days from now and still no sign of what the 4 designs are. Also as it is coming into the winter the orders would have to be sent in sooner rather than later to allow us have the winter gear in time.

A quick update for everyone.
It has proved difficult to meet our original date of this month due to various factors, including work committments and holidays.
We have made some good progress, though, and now have some designs back from 2 companies.
We have asked for one or two things to be changed, and for a couple more options, but we are aiming for the end of September to present the jersey options.
This will allow enough time for the first jerseys and shorts to be ready for the Christmas race.
Thanks for your patience, we will be announcing a date for the meeting shortly.

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So, what do we all think of the options before us?

must "Dundrum" be bigger than "Orwell"? I'm tired of being called Dundrum

Not mad about the new designs. I know tastes vary with people but the choices we are given aren't really tasteful. It seems that design number 1 is the only one that can be worn with black shorts.
The Saxo bank mock up is a bit sad as for the Orange and green fading into each other ... I prefer not to say anything...
We had some good designs ideas on the original thread submitted by the club members, why were they not taken into account?
My own opinion ...

Following on from Caroline's and Dick's comment - Why weren't any of the ideas that were put forward by Club members not shortlisted. If they were not going to be looked at then why start the whole debate of looking for ideas. I hope that one of the options at the meeting tomorrow is to leave the kit as it is rather than go with one of the suggested changes.

I too am a little disappointed. There were a lot of good ideas and designs being swapped around by members but it seems they have been passed over in favour of generic templates or a Saxo bank knock-off. A lot of time and effort was wasted.

I don't think any of the designs put forward for voting feel like an upgrade or a more interesting design.

Should I just look at the current CSC kit to get an idea of where the kit design will be heading in a few years?

I'd be happy to vote on keeping the current kit.

The new designs are even more awful than the current kit. Sorry. There is no way for me to express this on the voting form except in crayon.

I love the club, but this feels a bit like when your half-senile aunt knits you a sweater for Christmas, except that you have to wear it all year round. In public. With photograpers present.

Can we at least have an option for "keep the current design"?

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Thanks to everyone for their input on this very important topic.
Without getting into why one particular design was rejected, most were actually impractical, too much black and too much white were common themes, we wanted a link to our current kit, if possible as well.
I would like to thank the other 4 sub committee members who put an enormous amount of work and several hours into this project, particularly John M and the Docket.

Come and vote tonight at the AGM, don't forget we're voting for the new logo as well.

Who designed the new ones though? ... would it not be better to Not pick a new design than picking the least disliked one?

While I do appreciate the efforts of those on the committee it would dishonest of me to say that the options we have to vote on are any good. At all.

Is anyone a fan of any of the new designs?

Kit is too important to just be polite and silent about it and then have to wear something awful for the next few years so I'm risking your ire by agreeing, strongly, with John on this one.

I don't think any of the submissions in this thread were intended as final drafts - just initial concept sketches that could be made workable fairly easily by any decent kit producer. Having seen how the kit that boards.ie got made there is a huge amount of flexibility available from manufacturers and resorting to a knock-off of some pro team but with yellow and green levered in is just too too naff.

If it really is too late to restart this process to come up with a design that is a genuine (and much needed IMO) improvement on the current kit, then can we at least have the option of "no change" in the the vote?

For what its worth, the designs have left me under whelmed to say the least, could I suggest that this is parked until we see some more contemporary design options.

I can't make it tonight to express my opinion in person, but I think the worst course of action is for the club to be rushed into adopting a dodgy new kit. We'll be saddled with it for ages, and members will be under pressure to replace their current kit with something that they don't like. If necessary just update the current kit by substituting new sponsor logos on to the existing design.

Designing cycling kit is hard, particularly when you have many decades of history to respect. It's not unusual for this sort of process to take several iterations to get right. Even pro teams can end up with hideous stuff (Footon Servetto?).

So with respect to those who have put work into the new designs, I think this decision should be deferred until next year, when we can start with a proper design brief and open it up to the talents of the masses.

Just my 2c.

I agree 100% with John.

Just browsing through the history of this thread. At first we were told it was a design competition which would be put to a vote. Members asked for a starting point regarding colours and sponsors and then you can see there were pages of design ideas submitted.

None of this was commented on by the committee until John Twomey asked if there was any update at which point we were told that design responsibility had been passed off to kit suppliers. Where was the consultation and feedback from the committee during the design phase? It would have been easy to add any feedback to the designs and come up with a kit we could have all been proud to wear.

I also appreciate the work of the committee but this is not what was originally promised and as such I think we should go back to the drawing board, this time with full communication between members and committee through the forum. Please don't choose a new kit for the sake of it.

Regards,

Michael Hanley

It takes 2 minutes on Owayo for example to built a simple but nice jersey like below ... How can a few months of designing create a poor design ...?

I think the proposed designs are too similiar to our existing gear. It's not worth the expense of a full clothing change. I agree with many of the posts, there should be an option to vote for retaining the existing kit.